Legislature(2001 - 2002)

01/11/2001 01:38 PM House FIN

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                   HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                      January 11, 2001                                                                                          
                           1:38 PM                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 TAPE HFC 01 - 3, Side A                                                                                                        
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 CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Co-Chair Mulder called the  House Finance Committee meeting                                                                    
 to order at 1:38 PM.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Eldon Mulder, Co-Chair                                                                                          
 Representative Bill Williams, Co-Chair                                                                                         
 Representative Con Bunde, Vice-Chair                                                                                           
 Representative Eric Croft                                                                                                      
 Representative John Davies                                                                                                     
 Representative Carl Moses                                                                                                      
 Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                  
 Representative John Harris                                                                                                     
 Representative Bill Hudson                                                                                                     
 Representative Ken Lancaster                                                                                                   
 Representative Jim Whitaker                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 None                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Gretchen  Guess;  Major  General Phil  Oats,                                                                    
 Commissioner, Military and Veterans Affairs; Michelle Brown,                                                                   
 Commissioner,  Department  of  Environmental  Conservation;                                                                    
 Deborah B.  Sedwick, Commissioner, Department  of Community                                                                    
 and Economic Development;  Laddie Shaw,  Special Assistant,                                                                    
 Office of  Veterans  Affairs,  Department  of Military  and                                                                    
 Veterans  Affairs; Barbara  Frank,  Director,  Division  of                                                                    
 Administrative  Services,   Department   of   Environmental                                                                    
 Conservation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 GENERAL SUBJECT(S):                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 Review of Departments Accomplishments:                                                                                       
        Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                                           
        Department of Community and Economic Development                                                                        
        Department of Environmental Conservation                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The following overview was taken in log note format.  Tapes                                                                     
and handouts will be on file with the House Finance                                                                             
Committee through the 22nd Legislative Session, contact 465-                                                                    
2156. After the 22nd Legislative Session they will be                                                                           
available through the Legislative Library at 465-3808.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 LOG SPEAKER                DISCUSSION                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
      TAPE HFC 00 - 3                                                                                                         
      SIDE A                                                                                                                  
 010                        Introduced staff.                                                                                 
      MAJOR GENERAL PHIL                                                                                                      
      OATS, COMMISSIONER,                                                                                                     
      MILITARY AND                                                                                                            
      VETERANS AFFAIRS                                                                                                        
 280 Major General Phil     Thanked Committee for support. Stressed                                                             
      Oats                  that there are new missions. Reviewed the                                                           
                            department's mission.                                                                             
 379 Major General Phil     Reviewed mission of Office of                                                                       
      Oats                  Commissioner. All Divisions met                                                                     
                            performance standards.                                                                            
 405 Major General Phil     Currently 9 % is spent on administrative                                                            
      Oats                  costs.                                                                                            
 466 Major General Phil     Average vendor payment is 19 days. There                                                            
      Oats                  were no penalties for late payments.                                                              
 548 Major General Phil     A training and exercise program was                                                                 
      Oats                  approved as a result of the Y2k After                                                               
                           Action Plan.                                                                                       
 569 Major General Phil     Reviewed statewide communication plan. A                                                            
      Oats                  first draft was completed during the                                                                
                            summer of 2000 and is being refined.                                                                
                            Several community response databases are                                                            
                            being updated.                                                                                    
 624 Major General Phil     Average time to close out disasters has                                                             
      Oats                  been 5 years; Goal is 18 months.                                                                    
                            Disasters can remain open for many                                                                  
                            reasons. Currently, there are 18 open,                                                              
                            oldest is 9 years. The average is 3.8                                                               
                            years.                                                                                            
 680 Major General Phil     Number of those assisted: 4 million                                                                 
      Oats                  overall Specific disasters 92 thousand.                                                           
 693 Major General Phil     The number of lives saved or protected by                                                           
      Oats                  the Division was 106,000.                                                                         
 745 Major General Phil     Field guide completed, draft community                                                              
      Oats                  relations plans completed.                                                                        
 843 Major General Phil     Discussed deferred maintenance. The                                                                 
      Oats                  backlog is $20.7 million dollars. The                                                               
                            backlog was reduced by 6 percent in FY01.                                                           
                                                                                                                              
      Major General Phil    No days were lost due to facility related                                                           
      Oats                  accidents                                                                                         
 900 Major General Phil     The department is required to spend 2.5                                                             
      Oats                  percent of their federal funds on energy                                                            
                            efficiency. There was a 10-30 percent                                                               
                            increase in overall utility costs due to                                                          
                            fuel costs. There was a 12 percent                                                                  
                            reduction in kilowatt hours; increase in                                                            
                            fuel cost is challenge.                                                                           
 939 Major General Phil     Discussed Alaska National Guard and the                                                             
      Oats                  process of determining its mission. Unit                                                            
                            status report is used to assess.                                                                    
                            Personnel, training and equipment are                                                               
                            reviewed. National Guard meets its                                                                  
                            mission as determined by the Department                                                             
                            of Defense. It is meeting recruiting                                                                
                            goals.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
 1056 Major General Phil    Discussed response time. Response time is                                                           
      Oats                  about 1 hour and 45 minutes. High level                                                             
                            of professionalism due to conditions.                                                             
 1146 Major General Phil    National Guard directly or indirectly                                                               
     Oats                  assists all 626,932 of the state's                                                                   
                            residents; 117 lives were saved. The                                                                
                            Readiness Training program assisted                                                                 
                            36,000 in FY00, through its readiness                                                               
                            training; 14,500 have been assisted in FY                                                           
                            01.                                                                                               
 1176 Major General Phil    The department was unable to quantify the                                                           
      Oats                  amount and value of property protected.                                                           
 1257 Major General Phil    Discussed youth academy. He noted that 68                                                           
      Oats                  percent of the graduates received a GED                                                             
                            ore reentered high school. It was                                                                   
                            identified as a star base program; will                                                             
                            provide service to schools.                                                                       
 1296 Major General Phil    Out of 91 graduates from the Youth                                                                  
      Oats                  Academy, the average English                                                                        
                            comprehension grade level was 3.0 and the                                                           
                            average math level was 2.2 (the national                                                            
                            average is 1.4)                                                                                   
 1359 Major General Phil    Of 110 enrolled, 91 or 82.7 percent                                                                 
      Oats                  graduated from the program. The goal is                                                             
                           90.9 percent.                                                                                      
 1379 Major General Phil    Discussed mission 4 for the Alaska                                                                  
      Oats                  National Guard Youth Corps. Approximately                                                           
                            90 percent are in school or working one                                                             
                            year after graduation.                                                                            
 1418 Major General Phil    Discussed Veterans Affairs; 650 veterans                                                            
     Oats                  have been visited since July 2000.                                                                 
      Major General Phil    Since July 2000, 28 communities have been                                                           
      Oats                  visited to assist rural veterans.                                                                 
 1454 Major General Phil    Concluded that FY 02 is a year of                                                                   
      Oats                  opportunities. Second highest number of                                                             
                            veterans, but only one without a                                                                    
                            veteran's home. Centralized home does not                                                           
                            meet the needs of Alaskan Veterans.                                                                 
                            Chance to utilize pioneer homes for                                                                 
                            veterans 125 dedicated beds and a                                                                 
                            regional approach. Opening the door to                                                              
                            federal assistance.                                                                               
 1530 Representative        Questioned if federal government has                                                                
      Mulder                committed to assistance.                                                                          
 1590 LADDIE SHAW, SPECIAL Federal government is working on assisted                                                            
      ASSISTANT, OFFICE OF living project. Could offset cost of                                                                 
      VETERANS AFFAIRS,     veterans in the home by 33 - 66 percent.                                                          
      DEPARTMENT OF                                                                                                             
      MILITARY AND                                                                                                              
      VETERANS AFFAIRS                                                                                                          
 1658 Major General Phil    Observed that veterans want to stay in                                                              
      Oats                  their homes.                                                                                      
 1713 Representative        Proud of the dedication of staff and                                                                
      Foster                their loyalty. Thanked the Department for                                                           
                            their search and rescue efforts and rural                                                           
                            outreach. Department does a lot with very                                                           
                            little. Noted the amount of federal                                                                 
                            dollars and the difficulty in reducing                                                              
                            state dollars. Felt that they are the                                                               
                            most efficient department. Expressed                                                                
                            support for adding the efforts for combat                                                           
                            readiness.                                                                                        
 1844 Major General Phil    Discussed BEARS airplanes into southeast                                                            
      Oats                  Russia. Discussed readiness efforts.                                                              
 1906 Representative        Asked for the number of potential                                                                   
      Hudson                applicants to look at potential clients.                                                          
 1942 Co-Chair Williams     Questioned how long funding would be                                                                
                            available for assistance at pioneer                                                                 
                            homes. He thought federal funding would                                                             
                            be restricted to five years.                                                                      
 1971 Major General Phil    Did not know that funding would be                                                                  
      Oats                  restricted. A pilot program would be for                                                            
                            the next 4 years. He emphasized that the                                                            
                            federal government is looking for a way                                                             
                            to meet the need.                                                                                 
 2000 Vice-Chair Bunde      Referred to the Star Base Program.                                                                
 2010 Major General Phil    The program will be available to assist                                                             
      Oats                  in schools for intensive 2-week programs                                                            
                            at no cost to the school district. It is                                                            
                            a test program.                                                                                   
 2039 Vice-Chair Bunde      Questioned if there is a statutory                                                                  
                            requirement for an emergency radio                                                                  
                            network.                                                                                          
 2059 Major General Phil    Yes, federal law mandates emergency                                                                 
     Oats                  broadcast. It is difficult in rural                                                                  
                            Alaska. Alaska was the first to test                                                                
                            radio service though the use of                                                                     
                            commercial station tags to transmitter                                                              
                            for push to talk broadcast capability.                                                            
 2123 Vice-Chair Bunde      Referred to the drug intervention                                                                   
                            program.                                                                                          
 2131 Major General Phil    Assisted in taking $30 million dollars in                                                         
      Oats                  drugs out of the community. Provides                                                                
                            personnel and equipment assistance to                                                               
                            state and federal police.                                                                         
 2179 Co-Chair Mulder       Noted that the program is 100 percent                                                               
                            federally funded                                                                                  
 2190 Representative        Mission defense system update                                                                     
      Harris                                                                                                                    
 2199 Major General Phil    Federal Administration has indicated that                                                           
      Oats                  a National Missile Defense System. A                                                                
                            booster for the defensive rocket will                                                               
                            occur soon. If tests successful there                                                               
                            will probably a decisions to go ahead to                                                            
                            site. The Treaty could be broken once                                                               
                            concrete is poured. Preliminary site                                                                
                            preparation may occur.                                                                            
 2336 Representative John Asked how prepared the state is for                                                                   
      Davies                missile defense.                                                                                  
 2349 Major General Phil    We are not prepared for biological                                                                  
      Oats                  attacks.                                                                                          
      TAPE HFC 01 - 3,                                                                                                        
      Side B                                                                                                                    
 024 Major General Phil     Continued speaking about preparedness.                                                            
      Oats                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                            DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC                                                            
                            DEVELOPMENT                                                                                     
 249 DEBORAH B. SEDWICK, Introduced her staff. There are 53                                                                     
      COMMISSIONER,         measures for the department.                                                                      
      DEPARTMENT OF                                                                                                             
      COMMUNITY AND                                                                                                             
      ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                      
 329 Commissioner Sedwick There are 7 divisions, 6 independent                                                                  
                            agencies and 16 boards and commissions.                                                           
 474 Commissioner Sedwick  The department is working on improved                                                                
                            customer service through e-commerce and                                                             
                            on-line service. Purchase and renewal of                                                            
                            Alaska Business Licenses are on-line;                                                               
                            2,300 businesses used on-line systems in                                                            
                            the first 3 months. The department is                                                               
                            working on interactive forms for                                                                    
                            regulatory requirements.                                                                          
 638 Commissioner Sedwick  Discussed banking securities,                                                                        
                            corporations mission, and consumer                                                                  
                            complaints. Noted that 75 percent of the                                                            
                            applications received by the department                                                             
                            are incomplete. Currently, applications                                                             
                            are sent by mail. If applications were                                                              
                            submitted on-line the system would refuse                                                           
                            incomplete applications.                                                                          
 785 Commissioner Sedwick  Spoke to the ASMI program. The numbers                                                               
                            for tourism are not as good as the State                                                            
                            would like to see.                                                                                
 881 Co-Chair Mulder        Asked what the Department was doing to                                                            
                            help boost tourism.                                                                               
 897  Commissioner Sedwick  Commented on the cut to that budget last                                                            
                            year. Tourism planning has been                                                                     
                            drastically cut in the past couple years.                                                           
                            The Department is precluded from                                                                    
                            marketing. Education is a large part of                                                             
                            that marketing endeavor. There needs to                                                             
                            be better interagency work coordination.                                                          
 1002 Representative        Asked about increasing the # of Alaskans                                                            
      Hudson                employed.                                                                                         
 1034 Commissioner Sedwick  Stated that the department believed that                                                            
                            the measure could be met. She asked what                                                            
                            information needs to be considered.                                                                 
                            There needs to be a clear handle on some                                                            
                            measurement tools when working on the                                                               
                            budget.                                                                                           
 1088 Representative        Stated that he would be the Subcommittee                                                            
      Lancaster             Chair.  He asked about the tracking.                                                              
 1118 Commissioner Sedwick  Reiterated that the measurement is                                                                  
                            critical.  She noted that she strongly                                                              
                            believed in the program.                                                                          
 1145 Co-Chair Mulder       Agreed that a well-established benchmark                                                            
                            is essential to the program.                                                                      
 1164 Commissioner Sedwick  Stated that a year round piece is                                                                   
                            essential to the program.  Everything is                                                            
                            matched out in the summer time.  Winter                                                             
                            needs to be more of a focus.  The state                                                             
                            needs better exposure.                                                                            
 1205 Commissioner Sedwick  Spoke to the rate of expected growth.                                                               
                            Spoke to the Division of Trade and                                                                  
                            Development.  Trade Shows and promotion.                                                            
                            Happenings in China.  What is important                                                             
                            is the quality of the trade lead.                                                                 
 1374 Representative Croft  Asked if there were a better measure for                                                            
                            that component.                                                                                   
 1386 Commissioner Sedwick  Stated that the Department is struggling                                                            
                            with that piece.  As top trading                                                                    
                            partners, there needs to be some type of                                                            
                            state control.  The Department                                                                      
                            contributes a great deal and is always                                                              
                            open to recommendations.  This is                                                                   
                            important part of business for Alaska as                                                            
                            it brings a lot of money into the state.                                                            
                            She asked for an expansion of the                                                                   
                            mission.                                                                                          
 1475 Commissioner Sedwick  Referenced the new key measurement.  In                                                             
                            1999 the value dollar of export increased                                                           
                            33%.                                                                                              
 1518 Representative        Asked what made that happen.                                                                      
      Hudson                                                                                                                    
 1528 Commissioner Sedwick  Replied that we suffered through the                                                                
                            "Asian flu".  Emphasized that the state                                                           
                            can show the slow steady growth and                                                                 
                            create a new benchmark.                                                                           
 1561 Commissioner Sedwick  The Department believes strongly that                                                               
                            those destinations are our top trading                                                              
                            partners and that will not change.  Asian                                                           
                            partners pride themselves on loyalty.                                                               
                            She maintained that the state must remain                                                           
                            very focused in the East.                                                                         
 1612 Representative Croft  Commented that the trade numbers have                                                               
                            increased with the price of oil.                                                                  
 1660 Co-Chair Mulder       Suggested that these are big issues                                                                 
                            affecting the world.                                                                              
 1674 Representative Croft Spoke of the trade needs and what is                                                                 
                            appropriate for the Department.                                                                   
 1686 Commissioner Sedwick  Increase the performance production for                                                             
                            ASMI.  ASMI sells millions of pounds of                                                             
                            seafoods throughout the country.  She                                                               
                            recommended increasing the consumption of                                                           
                            Alaska seafood by increasing the volume                                                             
                            of product sold through ASMI promotions                                                             
                            by 10% in FY01.                                                                                   
 1780 Commissioner Sedwick  Continued, the target of 45 million                                                                 
                            pounds for FY01.                                                                                  
 1816 Commissioner Sedwick  Addressed community assistance. Reviewed                                                            
                            the number of communities successfully                                                              
                            managing new sewer and water systems.                                                               
                            This operates in only 43 communities.                                                               
                            There is a lack of people to run the                                                                
                            systems. There is not a lot of stability                                                            
                            with management with these systems.                                                               
 1875 Representative        Commented that the success rate may be                                                              
      Davies                increasing.                                                                                       
 1917 Commissioner Sedwick  Noted that the department is comfortable                                                            
                            with working with the Committee in                                                                  
                            clarifying the terminology.                                                                       
 1941 Commissioner Sedwick  Spoke to community assistance.  Reviewed                                                            
                            the number of CDQ-related jobs in Western                                                           
                            Alaska.                                                                                           
 1974 Commissioner Sedwick  Addressed the major difference from last                                                            
                            year and the new divisions.  The                                                                    
                            Community and Business Development and                                                              
                            the International Trade and Market                                                                  
                            Development were newly created.  The                                                                
                            director of that agency is working on a                                                             
                            survey.                                                                                           
 2066 Representative        Noted that this is a difficult department                                                           
      Hudson                to determine measures on.  He recommended                                                           
                            creating a vision in how to market                                                                  
                            Alaska.  He asked if there has been an                                                              
                            assessment done by the Governor's office                                                            
                            for expansion.                                                                                    
 2127 Commissioner Sedwick  Replied that the Department has many                                                              
                            ideas.  She suggested working with the                                                              
                            private sector in addressing these ideas                                                            
                            and gave examples.                                                                                
 2189 Representative        Stressed the need for a vision of what is                                                           
      Hudson                being sold. What is the major marketing                                                             
                            opportunity and commodity that can be                                                               
                            promoted.                                                                                         
 2249 Representative John Questioned where ATIA resides.                                                                      
      Davies                                                                                                                    
 2292 JEFF BUSH, DEPUTY     Clarified that the function is privatized                                                           
      COMMISSIONER,         and that the state only administers the                                                             
      DEPARTMENT OF         contract. The contract is administered                                                              
      COMMUNITY AND         under the Commissioner's Office.                                                                  
      ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                      
 2354 Representative        Clarified that ATIA's budget is $4.485                                                              
     Hudson                million dollars; the state pays 30                                                                   
                            percent                                                                                           
 2379 Vice-Chair Bunde 1    Questioned the cost of PCE.                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
      TAPE HFC 01 - 4,                                                                                                        
      Side A                                                                                                                  
 10   Commissioner Sedwick Did not know the exact number.                                                                     
 034 Commissioner Sedwick  Asked members to help the department by                                                              
                            taking Alaskan goodies to conferences and                                                           
                            discussed the use of trade walls.                                                                 
 164 Representative         Thanked the Commissioner for traveling to                                                           
      Foster                rural areas.                                                                                      
                            DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION                                                          
 281 Michelle Brown,        The Department of Environmental                                                                     
      Commissioner,         Conservation promotes healthy people,                                                               
      Department of         healthy communities and a healthy                                                                   
      Environmental         environment.  Everyone in DEC works in                                                              
      Conservation          some capacity for clean air, clean water,                                                           
                            clean land, safe food, safe handling of                                                             
                            oil and chemicals, safe public facilities                                                           
                            and businesses and pollution prevention.                                                          
 477 Commissioner Brown     Reviewed accomplishments and noted that                                                             
                            the department strives to deliver                                                                   
                            services, build partnerships, and provide                                                           
                            guidance that strengthens the overall                                                               
                            economy and maintains good jobs for                                                                 
                            Alaskans by sustainable management of                                                               
                            air, water and natural resources. The                                                               
                            department is looking at systematically                                                             
                            implementing a new and improved Alaska                                                              
                            water permitting p> program                                                                       
 571 Commissioner Brown     Although Alaska has the best laws in the                                                            
                            country to prevent oil spills from                                                                  
                            carriers transporting oil as cargo, there                                                           
                            have not been requirements for the                                                                  
                            railroad for large vessels carrying up to                                                           
                            a million gallons of oil for their own                                                              
                            use. Alaska needs to mend this hole in                                                            
                            its law relating to large tank vessels                                                              
                            and the railroad that carries oil for                                                               
                            their own use.                                                                                    
      Vice-Chair Bunde      Clarified that vessels can carry as much                                                            
                            as 1 million gallons.                                                                             
 622 Commissioner Brown     The department worked with the Alaska Oil                                                           
                            and Gas Association and EPA to conduct an                                                           
                            air permitting benchmark study to examine                                                           
                            the permitting programs in other states                                                             
                            to learn how to improve Alaska's air                                                                
                            permitting services. The department                                                                 
                            reduced its permit delivery time by 42%                                                             
                            for construction permits                                                                          
 694 Commissioner Brown     The department gained improved                                                                      
                            environmental performance commitments in                                                            
                            the BP and ARCO merger agreement.                                                                 
 745 Commissioner Brown     The department was in federal court                                                                 
                            challenging the Environmental Protection                                                            
                            Agency's decision to reject a state                                                                 
                            approved air quality permit for the Red                                                             
                            Dog Mine outside Kotzebue.                                                                        
  847 Representative Croft Questioned the status of the permit. The                                                             
                            EPA order is in effect.                                                                           
 859 Commissioner Brown     Reviewed the finding by the EPA. The case                                                           
                            will be heard in the Ninth Circuit next                                                             
                            month.                                                                                            
 892 Commissioner Brown     Noted that there was concern that the                                                               
                            minimally regulated cruise ships were                                                               
                            dumping large amounts of sewage and                                                                 
                            emitting serious air pollution. Studies                                                             
                            showed that 34 out of 240 opacity                                                                   
                            readings violated state standards, but                                                              
                            these violations decreased over the                                                                 
                            summer.                                                                                           
 964 Commissioner Brown     Only one of 80 blackwater samples -                                                                 
                            toilet water - from the vessel's                                                                    
                            treatment system met water quality                                                                  
                            standards.                                                                                          
                            Graywater - or water from sinks and                                                                 
                            laundry - is more like sewage than the                                                              
                            industry anticipated, with some samples                                                             
                            50,000 times the standard.                                                                          
                            There was no evidence of mixing any                                                                 
                            hazardous wastes with wastewater                                                                    
                            discharges.                                                                                       
 1018 Commissioner Brown    The department is working with industry                                                             
                            for better waste management practices,                                                              
                            better on-board treatment technologies,                                                             
                            and for an ongoing state oversight and                                                              
                            monitoring program, including a                                                                     
                            scientific review of possible impacts on                                                            
                            our waters and wildlife from the                                                                    
                            wastewater discharges.                                                                            
 1029 Commissioner Brown    The cruise industry has indicated that                                                              
                            Alaska is setting the world standard.                                                             
 1046 Co-Chair Williams     Questioned if the state found the raw                                                               
                            sewage before or after the industry said                                                            
                            they would test.                                                                                  
 1083 Commissioner Brown    Stated that the testing was done with the                                                           
                            Coast Guard and industry was cooperative.                                                           
                            Tests occurred during the summer. Treated                                                           
                            sewage still exceed standards.                                                                    
 1148 Representative Croft Questioned the effective date of federal                                                             
                            requirements in the legislation by                                                                  
                            Senator Murkowski. Commissioner Brown                                                               
                            clarified that it would be effective in                                                             
                            the next summer. It prohibits the                                                                   
                            discharge of raw sewage. EPA will develop                                                           
                            standards for other discharge.                                                                    
 1205 Representative John Observed that neither of the discharges                                                               
      Davies                referred to would have been under the                                                               
                            federal mandate. Commissioner Brown                                                                 
                            clarified that the state would still have                                                           
                            to address treatment of gray water. She                                                             
                            emphasized that industry was not happy                                                              
                            with the results and are looking at                                                                 
                           alternatives                                                                                       
 1288 Representative John Questioned if technology is insufficient                                                              
     Davies                of if ships are not being operated                                                                   
                            correctly.                                                                                        
 1309 Commissioner Brown    Stated that both are factors and gave                                                               
                            examples.                                                                                         
 1359 Representative        Questioned if ultraviolet treatment has                                                             
      Lancaster             been considered. Commissioner Brown did                                                             
                            not know.                                                                                         
 1390 Vice-Chair Bunde      Questioned how fecal coliform is getting                                                            
                            into the gray water. Commissioner Brown                                                             
                            stated that animal matter can contain                                                               
                            fecal coliform. The ferry system is also                                                            
                            being addressed.                                                                                  
 1459 Representative Croft Noted that cruise ships were violating                                                               
                            the law.                                                                                          
 1477 Commissioner Brown    Observed that the law required treatment                                                            
                            equipment and assumed that the devise                                                               
                            would meet the standards. The standard is                                                           
                            technology based.                                                                                 
 1505 Representative        Noted that there are equipment inspection                                                           
      Hudson                requirements.                                                                                     
 1565 Commissioner Brown    Discussed healthy, safe communities. She                                                            
                            noted that there is a food born illness                                                             
                            in Homer.                                                                                         
 1587 Commissioner Brown    Referred to performance measures. She                                                               
                            noted that they have been actively                                                                  
                            collecting data. She provided members                                                               
                            with a handout on performance measures                                                            
                            (copy on file).                                                                                   
 1668 Commissioner Brown    Reviewed measures for the Commissioner's                                                            
                            Office and noted that all divisions are                                                             
                            tracking performance measures.                                                                    
 1689 Commissioner Brown    An arbitrator overturned only one                                                                   
                            grievance in the last two years. There                                                              
                            were no penalties on audit or payrolls.                                                           
 1732 Vice-Chair Bunde      Questioned why one gallon was chosen.                                                               
                            Commissioner Brown noted that one gallon                                                            
                            of oil in a sensitive area can cause                                                                
                            trouble.                                                                                          
 1777 Commissioner Brown    Discussed contaminated sites. There were                                                            
                            756 high-risk sites.                                                                              
 1801 Commissioner Brown    Observed that 124 underground storage                                                               
                            tanks that received no further action                                                               
                            required.                                                                                         
 1849 Commissioner Brown    Air and water quality permits cost an                                                               
                            average of $9,000 dollars. Anchorage has                                                            
                            met the health standard benchmark for air                                                           
                            quality. Fairbanks is not meeting                                                                   
                            standards.                                                                                        
 1876 Commissioner Brown    It takes an average of 278 days to issue                                                            
                            a permit. There is no data on the time it                                                           
                            takes to reach resolution on complaints.                                                          
 1903 Commissioner Brown    All risk based inspection facilities were                                                           
                            completed.                                                                                        
 1910 Commissioner Brown    Fast track permits will be available.                                                             
 1919 Commissioner Brown  Discussed measures for Environmental                                                                  
                            Health. Most of the program is funded by                                                            
                            60 percent general funds and 40 percent                                                             
                            program receipts.                                                                                 
 1949 Commissioner Brown    There were fewer boil water notices.                                                              
 1959 Commissioner Brown    Tracking for deficiencies in sanitary                                                               
                            surveys began in April 2000. Since then,                                                            
                            16 percent had significant deficiencies.                                                          
      Commissioner Brown    The percentage of Land fills scoring 80                                                             
                            or higher has increased.                                                                          
 2043 Commissioner Brown  Food services facilities are not being                                                                
                            inspected as much as targeted. Critical                                                             
                            violations are going up.                                                                          
 2054 Representative Croft Critical violations occur when an                                                                    
                            operator is not in compliance with state                                                            
                            food rules in a manner that can result in                                                           
                            a food borne illness.                                                                             
 2079 Commissioner Brown    Clarified that the trend was going down                                                             
                            and is now going back up.                                                                         
 2106 Representative Croft Noted that it is hard to tell if it is a                                                             
                            good indicator that there are more                                                                  
                            critical violations.                                                                              
 2123 Commissioner Brown    Noted that they are inspecting less and                                                             
                           finding more.                                                                                      
 2132 BARBARA FRANK,        Clarified that since facilities are not                                                           
      DIRECTOR, DIVISION    being inspected as often that when they                                                             
      OF ADMINISTRATIVE     are inspected there are more serious                                                                
      SERVICES, DEPARTMENT violations. More frequent inspections                                                                
      OF ENVIRONMENTAL      allow problems to be addressed before                                                               
      CONSERVATION          they become a critical violation.                                                                 
 2187 Commissioner Brown    Discussed Facility Construction and                                                                 
                            Operation measures. No data on the cost                                                             
                            per household served. 69 percent of rural                                                           
                            households will have safe water and                                                                 
                            sanitation by the end of calendar year                                                              
                            2000.                                                                                             
 2236 Commissioner Brown    Statewide public Service no data of cost                                                            
                            on individual facilities. Material                                                                  
                            exchange has saved $1.5 million dollars.                                                          
 2267 Commissioner Brown    Suggested the deletion of measure 2.                                                                
                            There is a 70 percent compliance rate.                                                              
                            The department offers training programs                                                             
                            to help communities do environmental                                                                
                            planning. She noted that 80 percent of                                                              
                            the communities served continue on to                                                               
                            complete programs. The department has a                                                             
                            99 percent customer satisfaction.                                                                 
 2318 Commissioner Brown    Noted that the issue is: How do you value                                                           
                            prevention? Observed it is a challenge to                                                           
                            quantify.                                                                                         
 2340                       ADJOURNMENT                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                            The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m.                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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